Ian Mac Ian Mac Like many Radio Caroline DJs of the eighties, Ian had previously been heard on the Israeli offshore station, the Voice Of Peace, where he was known as Ian Hudson. He joined Caroline in June 1988. He left a few weeks before the Dutch raid in 1989. He went on to work for various stations including Radio Luxembourg and Christopher England's satellite venture Euronet, where he “talked plausible sounding nonsense about professional wrestling”. He told The Pirate Radio Hall of Fame: “On a calm day with a full freezer and a good crew there was nowhere else you'd rather be (than on Caroline). If it had been blowing a howler for a fortnight, you'd had pork chops for dinner every night for a week, the crew were getting grumpy and Funky Cold Medina was coming around every four and a half hours, then frankly, you'd rather go home. From our Class of 88/89, Reynolds, Murphy, Jackson, Harrison, Richards, Tilley and Asher - the greatest radio presenter in the UK to never get a national gig - all went on to do pretty well for themselves in legitimate radio. Good on 'em, they were the ones who tried to stretch the boundaries.” Ian now creates websites in an obscure Scottish cliff-top village. “It's wierdly similar to Caroline really, I sit in a room full of machinery overlooking the North Sea creating things which I hope people I'll never meet might get a kick out of.” (Our thanks to Ian for his assistance. Photo kindly provided by John Burch. Ian says: “I should've known the infamous rainbow jumper would make an appearance.”)


click to hear audio click to hear audio Ian Mac on Radio Caroline from the morning of 11th June 1988. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 4 minutes 22 seconds)

Jay Mack Jay Mack An American, he joined Laser-558 in September 1985 and stayed with the station until it closed down on 5th November. Needing a new name for his offshore career, he borrowed the identity of a legendary US broadcaster called Jay Mack who he describes as “one of the greatest DJs in American radio history.” The Pirate Radio Hall of Fame asked Laser's Jay to tell us about his life and career: “I received a B.A. in Communications from the University of Colorado in Boulder in the mid-70s, emphasis on Radio/TV. The final two years there I focused on radio and in one of my classes I did a research paper on pirate radio in England and Holland. I had become fascinated with the pirates after having spent the summer of 1970 in Europe, much of it in the Netherlands. After graduating, I never gave pirate radio another thought. I began my radio career as a part-time DJ at KFKA-AM in Greeley, Colorado. Several years later I migrated to the East Coast and landed at WECM-FM in Claremont, New Hampshire. Less than a year later I took an overnight job at WFTQ-AM in Worcester, Massachusetts. That’s where I met Craig Novak, a fellow employee. He eventually left to do mornings and program Laser-558. I was one of many who wished him well. Surprise surprise, he came back for a short vacation in late summer 1985, stopped in at WFTQ, and asked me if I was ready for an adventure. Laser needed DJs. I was single, tired of overnights, and it was easy to say yes. A couple of weeks later I found myself in a hotel in Sheerness, waiting for the right night to board a tender out to Laser. DJ transfers from the mainland always took place in the middle of the night, thanks to the Dioptric Surveyor, the 100 foot long government ship that was making life difficult for Laser. The tender trip happened on the night of my birthday and, after several hours tossing about in the Thames estuary, I stumbled on board Laser around 3am, just seconds before the Dioptric Surveyor swung up close and hit us with floodlights and cameras. I was hustled below deck and out of sight. 11 hours later I did my first air shift on Laser. A couple of months later, the assorted problems and difficulties onboard came to a head when we lost five of our six generators. No need for me to detail those last few days because Jeff Davis has already done it.” Following the closedown Jay returned to WFTQ. This was followed by a string of radio jobs - WENS-FM, Indianapolis, WFTQ again - this time as Program Director, as he also was at KWEN-FM in Tulsa, KHOW-FM in Denver, WKLB Boston, KSKS-FM Fresno, California, KUPL-FM Portland, Oregon, and then KHOP-FM in Modesto, California. He continues: “In 1996 de-regulation changed the face of radio in America; suddenly there was lots of consolidation. I ended up becoming the programming head of four stations in Modesto. I spent the last few years of my career managing these four stations (Rock 95, Kat Country 103, 104.1 The Hawk and ESPN 970AM). Unfortunately I broke my neck in a rollover SUV accident in late 2000 and, although I recovered, I felt the need to leave radio in 2002. So Modesto was my last stop. My wife and I moved to Colorado in 2003 and spent several years building, and then living in, our dream house. But we didn’t care for the heavy snow so we sold it in 2007 and moved back to California, to the Sacramento area, where we’ve been ever since. I am attempting to complete my first fiction novel. (It has nothing to do with radio — maybe the next one!) It's called The Cracked Spine. Maybe I’ll have an opportunity to publish it, maybe not. Either way, it’s a bucket list item that I hope to have finished by the end of 2014.” Regarding his time on the Communicator, Jay remembers: “The tender would bring us fan mail. I was fascinated by the interest in the station. Anyone writing to us would have to send the letter or post card to a P.O. Box in New York City, then it would bounce back to London, and eventually find its way out to us. I received my first letter of support less than 10 days after my first on-air shift. That meant that someone wrote to me my first afternoon on the air. I couldn’t believe that. We always read our mail and took great encouragement from it, because we weren’t living in the best of conditions. The fans/anoraks were unbelievable! I still have a box full of those letters here at our house in California. Truly amazing. I lived for Saturday nights. We had a TV on board. My first week on the Communicator, I discovered a show on ITV called Dempsey & Makepeace. It was a crime show about a New York cop who was sent to London to partner with a British detective. The detective was Makepeace. And she was beautiful, played by Glynis Barber. Remember, we were a bunch of scruffy guys living on a ship in the Thames estuary. No women on board. I was in love with Glynis Barber. I usually saved a beer or two for Saturday night! I really loved the music. Laser exposed me to a lot of artists I didn’t know from my life in the States like Midge Ure, Buck’s Fizz, the Communards, Feargal Sharkey, Level 42, Marillion, King and a lot more. On Laser, we played about 17 or 18 different Madness cuts; in the States, Our House and Uncle Sam were literally the only two Madness songs that received air-play. We played a lot more Clash than I’d ever heard in the States. Ditto with The Smiths. It was a great musical experience. British bands and artists have always been the pop trend-setters, in my opinion, and always will be. We all hated one particular song: The Power of Love by Jennifer Rush. It was a huge hit but, for a DJ, it was a 5 minute dirge. And it wouldn’t go away. It took forever to become a hit in England and on the Continent. Then I came back to the States, and I had to play it all over again in Indianapolis. Ouch.” (Many thanks to Jay for his help. Photo courtesy of Jeff Davis.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Jay Mack on Laser-558 from the evening of 19th September 1985. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 4 minutes 9 seconds)

Bill Makepeace a journalist visiting the mv Ross Revenge, he read the midnight news bulletin on Radio Caroline on 10th March 1989.

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Mike Barrington and Brian Marshall Brian Marshall had previously worked on London landbased pirates, Irish and continental stations and British forces radio before joining Radio Caroline in April 1985 as a newsreader and occasional DJ. Although he only stayed a short time (last heard on 4th May), he has gone on to have a long career in broadcasting. Brian tells us: “I was friends with Grant Benson (we had worked together on Radio Nova in Italy) and I ‘bunked off’ from BFBS for a while to go out to the Ross. I started in radio in the late 70s running land-based pirate stations in London, after hearing ELR (East London Radio) broadcasting from Knighton Woods near where I lived on the borders of East London. I ran Phoenix Radio and helped set up Alice's Restaurant, before forming a broadcast radio engineering company, Phoenix Communications, which ran the first ever freely radiating licensed broadcasting services operated in the UK outside the BBC/IBA. Phoenix Comms later became Radica Broadcast Systems which still exists today. I worked for Ofcom between 2004 and 2012 and now teach radio and journalism at the University of Bedfordshire in Luton.” (Thanks to Brian for his assistance and to John Burch for the photo which shows Brian, right, with engineer Mike Barrington.)


click to hear audio click to hear audio Brian Marshall on Radio Caroline from the evening of 4th May 1985. This is an edited version of a recording available from www.azanorak.com. Our thanks to Ray Robinson (duration 4 minutes 20 seconds)

Cherry Marshall joined Radio Caroline in April 1989. We don't know much about her but Arthur Burton tells us that “Cherry was an absolute delight to be there with - very friendly (unlike some others!).” Can anyone provide more information?

click to hear audio click to hear audio Cherry Marshall on Caroline-558 from lunchtime on Sunday 23rd April 1989, the day of the London Marathon. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 3 minutes 14 seconds). Reception isn't great on this clip so we asked if anyone could provide a better one:
click to hear audio click to hear audio A short clip of Cherry Marshall on Caroline's ‘Overnight Alternative’ rock service on 819 from 1st April 1989. Thanks very much to RetroRadio for this recording (duration 1 minute)

Caroline Martin Caroline Martin must be one of the few DJs in the world to work on a station after which she had been named. Her father had been a fan of Radio Caroline in a previous era and named his daughter after it. Birthday 22nd December, she was born and brought up near Cambridge. After hearing tales about the legendary offshore broadcaster from her dad, Caroline decided to become involved. She was first heard playing non-stop music and making the occasional announcement on Radio Caroline in May 1986. In August she returned to the ship as a fully-fledged DJ and stayed for a long time, becoming an integral part of the team during its last few years of broadcasting from the ship. Caroline was part of the crew air-lifted off the Ross Revenge by RAF helicopter in December 1990. She married fellow Caroline DJ Dave Asher (since divorced) and went on to work for Contact-94, broadcasting to the Channel Islands from France, Chiltern Supergold, Invicta, Magic, Rock-FM, BRMB and Free. She can currently be heard presenting the lunchtime show on BBC WM 95.6. Caroline says: “The best years ever were spent on that ship. Through it, I of course met Dave (who is still one of my very best friends) and together we had a son Joshua so, all in all, a lot of good came out of it. Also it gave me a knowledge/appreciation of music that I would never have found anywhere else. Thanks for remembering me. Good times.” (This photo of Caroline with Johnny Lewis, shared on Facebook by Peter Herring. Our thanks to him. A few of Caroline's own photos are here.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Caroline Martin on Radio Caroline during the afternoon of 30th December 1989. This clip is edited from a recording shared by the Offshore Radio Guide. Our grateful thanks to Martin van der Ven (duration 3 minutes 7 seconds)

Steve Martin was a former landbased pirate DJ from London station RFM who was heard on Radio Caroline for a couple of weeks in May 1989. Can anyone provide more information?


Steve Masters
Steve Masters (Laser-558)
There were three broadcasters called Steve Masters involved in offshore radio during the eighties. The first was part of the original DJ team for Laser-558 but he quit before the station made it onto the air. A replacement was urgently needed so an experienced air-time salesman called Dan Crafton took his name and his late night slot on the first programme schedule. He was there for the launch of Laser-558 in May 1984 and stayed for one stint (last show on 17th June 1984). He signed off each night with “it's been a business doing pleasure with you” - a phrase which could be seen as encapsulating the difference beween the commercial outlook of Laser and the more idealistic one of Radio Caroline. Since his time on Laser, Dan/Steve has been a media consultant in the US, Europe and North Africa. (Photo of the first Laser-558 on air team, left to right: Jessie Brandon, Ric Harris, Paul Dean, Steve Masters and David Lee Stone, courtesy of Offshore Echo's magazine. There is another photo of Steve in Michael Dean's photo album.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Steve Masters on his “swinging soirée”, closes Laser-558 for the night on 26th May 1984. This is an edited version of a recording available on www.azanorak.com. Our thanks to Ray Robinson (duration 4 minute 23 seconds)

Steve Masters Steve Masters (Caroline) The third Steve Masters was a former landbased pirate DJ from Kent, no relation to Laser's Steve Masters, above. This Steve joined Radio Caroline on Christmas Day 1987 but left the station to go to college. He has since participated in some of the various Caroline RSL broadcasts on land and, according to a posting on an internet forum, is now a lecturer at a technical college in Kent. Can anyone provide more information? (Photo kindly provided by François Lhote of Offshore Echo's magazine.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Steve Masters on Caroline-558 from the afternoon of 22nd March 1988. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 2 minutes 58 seconds)

Bob Matthews
Bob Matthews
got his start on hospital radio and was heard on the London landbased pirate Radio Jackie but, when that station closed down to apply for a community radio license in 1985, he joined Radio Caroline. His first show was on 16th February that year and he stayed a month. Since then he has broadcast on Coast-AM, Invicta Supergold and was programme controller of satellite station EKR. This was followed by stints at CTFM, TLR, KMFM, RFM Maidstone, Academy FM and others, using the name Bob Mower. (Photo ©Peter Harmsen. There are more of Peter's Caroline pictures on Flickr.)


click to hear audio click to hear audio A sea-sick Bob Matthews on Radio Caroline International, as the station was then called, from the early hours of 19th February 1985. This clip is taken from a recording posted on The Offshore Radio Club Forum by Hans Hendriks. Our thanks to him (duration 3 minutes 54 seconds)

Mark Matthews Mark Matthews Previously a DJ on a landbased short wave pirate, Mark joined Radio Caroline in February 1986 and became an integral part of the team over the next couple of years, working both as a broadcaster and helping to run the station on land. Since then he has been on Invicta in Kent, Contact-94 in France, spent five years at SGR-FM, a couple of years as a freelance sports journalist for IRN, a decade as sports producer for BBC Radio Suffolk and is now a freelance presenter and director of Splice Creative, a media and marketing agency providing video, radio, graphic design, marketing and PR services from Diss, Norfolk. (Photo of Mark in the Caroline Overdrive studio kindly provided by John Burch.).

click to hear audio click to hear audio Mark Matthews celebrating Radio Caroline's twenty-third birthday on the evening of 28th March 1987. This is an extract from a much longer recording available on www.azanorak.com. Our thanks to Ray Robinson (duration 3 minutes 54 seconds)

Melanie McArthur joined Radio Caroline in 1989 as a cook and occasional DJ (first show 12th August 1989). She left to study law. Andy Bradgate tells us “Mel holds a place in broadcasting history as the last voice heard on Caroline's ‘Overnight Alternative’ rock service on 819 before it was illegally shut down in an act of piracy by the Dutch authorities in August 1989. She now works in the rail industry and lives in Bristol where her hobbies include keeping guinea pigs, collecting soda siphons, drinking and demodernising her Bedminster home. An expert on the indie scene, her favourite bands include Pavement, Radiohead, Gallon Drunk, Pimp, Nick Cave, Breathless and The Fall.” (Our thanks to Andy for his assistance. We have recently discovered that the photo we thought was of Melanie, and published on The Pirate Radio Hall of Fame, is actually someone else. Our apologies. Can anyone provide a photo of the real Melanie McArthur?).

click to hear audio click to hear audio Melanie McArthur on Radio Caroline from March 1990. It sounds as if supplies are running a bit low on board. These links are taken from a recording posted on www.azanorak.com by Brian Nichols. Our thanks to him and Ray Robinson (duration 2 minutes 13 seconds)

Dave Windsor and Paul McKenna Paul McKenna Born on 8th November 1963, Paul made his radio debut at the age of 12 when he appeared on the ‘young DJ’ spot on Capital Radio's kids' programme Hullabaloo. Before joining Radio Caroline in October 1984, Paul had worked for the in-store radio station at Top Shop Oxford Circus and at Wood Green Shopping City in north London, the south London pirates Radio Jackie and Radio Sovereign, as well as on the Voice Of Peace. He was only on Caroline for one stint (October/November 1984) before joining Chiltern Radio in Dunstable. From there he moved to Capital Radio then Radio One and the Music Box TV channel before making a very sucessful career switch to become a hypnotist and hypnotherapist. He is now a best-selling author whose self-help books have sold more than seven million copies and been translated into 32 languages. For more details, see paulmckenna.com. Despite his thriving hypnotherapy career, Paul is still interested in his old station and attended both Radio Caroline's 40th and 45th birthday parties. (This photo of Paul, right, with Dave Windsor courtesy of John Burch.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Paul McKenna on Radio Caroline International from the afternoon of 19th October 1984. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 4 minutes 4 seconds)

Jenny McKenzie
Jenny McKenzie
A cook on the mv Ross Revenge, Jenny was occasionally heard presenting late night shows on Radio Caroline and reading the English news bulletins on Dutch service Radio Monique. The Night Owl showed her how to operate the equipment. He writes: “I remember her asking me if I could teach her how to work the desk. She started to sit in on my programme to see how it was done and, as the best way to learn is to do it, I suggested she did part of my show so she did a few links under my watchful eye.” Jenny's first show was in August 1985, her last in November 1986. (Photo from Offshore Echo's magazine.)


click to hear audio click to hear audio A very short clip of (a slightly intoxicated) Jenny McKenzie on Radio Caroline from the early hours of New Years Day 1986. This recording courtesy of The Offshore Radio Archive. Can anyone provide a more substantial recording? (duration 45 seconds)

Fergie McNeal
Fergie McNeal
from East Anglia, he originally joined Radio Caroline as a cook just before Christmas 1984 but was also heard on air, presenting occasional late night shows in January 1985 using the name Jimmy Bond. In February he became known as ‘Fergie the cook’, later acquiring a surname as well when he became a full-time presenter. His shows on the late night Caroline Overdrive rock service were particularly well-received. Fergie left Radio Caroline in April 1986 to move to Holland and marry his Dutch girlfriend Mariella but he returned for a brief stint in September 1988. The couple had a daughter, Valerie, but sadly the marriage ended in divorce. Fergie worked as an English teacher in Thailand but, following his arrest and imprisonment for cannabis possession, was deported back to the UK. He spent time as a TEFL (English as a foreign language) teacher in London before moving to China where he died in his sleep on 4th October 2008. Real name Fergus Nial Penman, he was 51 years old. (Photo taken by Leendert Vingerling and kindly provided by Keith King. We previously spelt Fergie's surname incorrectly. Thanks to Vincent Schriel for pointing out the mistake.)


click to hear audio click to hear audio Fergie McNeal on Radio Caroline from the evening of 26th March 1985. At the time the station was broadcasting on 963kHz and 585kHz. Clip taken from a recording posted on the Offshore Radio Guide. Our thanks to Martin van der Ven (duration 4 minutes 27 seconds)

Holly Michaels Holly Michaels was the second female broadcaster to join Laser-558, coming aboard in June 1984. She left in January 1985 and married the ship's captain Tim Levensaler. The couple moved to Florida. Asked on Facebook what Holly is doing now, Laser colleague Ric Harris said: “My info is second hand but I hear she is in nursing.” (Photo from Offshore Echo's magazine. There are more photos of Holly in Michael Dean's photo album.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Holly Michaels on Laser-558 during the afternoon of Christmas Day 1984 (duration 2 minutes 13 seconds)
click to hear audio click to hear audio A couple of days later Holly Michaels and boyfriend Tim Levansaler make a guest appearance on rival station Radio Caroline where Dave Richards features their Top 5 favourite tracks. Both clips are edited from recordings shared by www.azanorak.com. Our thanks to Ray Robinson (duration 4 minutes 47 seconds)

Radio Caroline and Monique DJs
A gathering of English and Dutch DJs out on deck at the time of a crew change, including a couple featured on this page. Left to right: Frank Petersen, Ad Roberts, Colin Peters (all Radio 558), Dave Richards, Nigel Harris, Chris Kennedy, Judy Murphy, Neil Gates, Andy Bradgate (all Caroline), Elly van Amstel, Walter Simons, Pete McKenzie, Wim van Egmond (all Radio 558) and Ian Mac (Caroline). Photo taken by B.Dom, shared on Facebook by Chris Kennedy.

Chris Miles Relief transmitter engineer on the mv Ross Revenge, Chris presented a couple of late night shows on Radio Caroline in August 1985. He now has a company supplying radio systems to the film, broadcast and entertainment industries.

click to hear audio click to hear audio Chris Miles on Radio Caroline International from the early hours of 21st August 1985. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 3 minutes 58 seconds)

Dave Miller was heard presenting late-night shows on Radio Caroline in July 1988. Aged 17 at the time, he arrived on board the Ross Revenge alongside Judy Murphy on the day the Dutch service of Radio 558 took over Caroline's frequency during the daytime hours. From Radio Caroline, Dave went on to Radio City in Liverpool, Key 103, Rock FM, Real Radio, BRMB and was responsible for launching Belfast CityBeat as its first Programme Controller and Breakfast Show presenter in 1996. He returned to Radio Caroline when it went legal and presented drivetime on its RSL broadcast from Rochester. He later went on to create The Super Station which was the last radio station to broadcast from the old Laser ship mv Communicator. After an initial trial run, the station was granted a full license to serve Orkney and Caithness, although not from the ship - the Communicator was scrapped. After seven years on air, The Super Station closed in November 2014.


Andy Moorcock
Andy Moorcock
Born 13th August 1954, Andy had worked on the Voice of Peace off the coast of Israel before joining Radio Caroline. He was mainly employed as an engineer but, from December 1983, also found time to broadcast his somewhat esoteric choice of music. He used a number of different DJ names. As well as Andy Moorcock, he was ‘Andy the engineer’, Roland Butter, Billy Dukes, Rex Barker, Bilbo Baggins, Maurice Dancer and Hertz van Rental! His final show on the station was in April 1985. He later worked as an engineer for Laser-558, Radio Nova on the Riviera, helped to fit out the mv Nanell for an abortive offshore radio project and was then with Kiss-100 in London. Real name Andy Howard, he sadly passed away as a result of a brain haemorrhage in Hayward's Heath Hospital on 28th December 2008. (Thanks to Kevin Turner for the photo of Andy, taken while they were both working at Radio Nova in Seborga.)


click to hear audio click to hear audio Andy Moorcock on Radio Caroline from the evening of 5th March 1984. This is an edited version of a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Jan-Fré. Our thanks to him (duration 2 minutes 48 seconds)

Jeff Morris
Jeff Morris
joined Radio Caroline in June 1987 but only stayed a short time, including his birthday on 15th June. His stay was cut short by a dose of food poisoning. His last programme was on 21st June 1987. Paul Graham tells us “he applied via the New York office for the job on Caroline. Most of us didn't use that route. He was a really nice guy from Nottingham. He ran a successful mobile disco in that area and great fun to be with.” Jeff was on board when the Ross Revenge was moved to a new anchorage at the Falls Head in June 1987, following the extension of UK territorial limits to 12 miles. Some of his photos from that period are on the Offshore Radio Guide. Although he used the Jeff Morris name on Caroline, he is better known as Freddie Belmont, having worked on a number of stations in America under that name, including WTDK 107-1 Cambridge MD., WKAZ Charleston WV., B102 Rapid City SD., KAML Gillette WY. He can currently be heard on the internet reincarnation of Radio Northsea International. (Our thanks to Jeff/Freddie for his assistance. Photo courtesy of Paul Graham. More of Paul's photos are here.)


click to hear audio click to hear audio Jeff Morris on Radio Caroline, soon after the ship moved to its new anchorage at the Falls Head. This clip is taken from a demo, recorded on the Ross Revenge, which Jeff/Freddie has posted on YouTube together with some video of the station (duration 3 minutes 36 seconds)

Judy Murphy Judy Murphy A Canadian DJ, she had studied Radio and TV in Toronto. While travelling in Europe, a chance meeting with former Radio Monique DJ Herbie Visser led to her joining Radio Caroline. Her first show was on 19th July 1988. She left the station before Christmas but, before departing, made a taped show to be broadcast on New Year’s Eve. She then joined Radio Luxembourg where she broadcast as Jodie Scott. She later worked on Sunshine Radio in Luxembourg but is now back in the UK where she works as an actress, voice-over and singer. Some of her songs are available on MySpace. (Photo by B.Dom courtesy of ‘Offshore Echo's Photo Gallery’.)

click to hear audio click to hear audio Judy Murphy on Caroline-558 from 1st August 1988, a time when the station was only broadcasting overnight because the Dutch Radio 558 occupied the daytime hours. Clip taken from a recording shared on the Internet Radiocafé Forum by Vincent. Our thanks to him (duration 3 minutes 28 seconds)



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